Wednesday, July 9, 2008

Cuban Flag Desecrated at Babalú

Now I have seen it all.

If I were to close this blog tomorrow, I would not miss one damn thing.

You can bring down the curtain.

They have reached bottom.

The Cuban flag has been desecrated at Babalú.

The flag for which Martí and Maceo and ten thousand times seventy martyrs shed their generous blood, the hallowed emblem of our nationality and independence, has been made the occasion of a humorless joke by one who knows nothing of her glorious history or of the respect which is owed her by all Cubans.

I will not reproduce the offensive caricature of our flag or even describe what it is that they have done to her. Instead, I will quote our National Poet's immortal tribute:

To the Cuban Flag

Beautiful, gallant, victorious
And beyond the tyrant's hand,
Thou art the banner most glorious
And the ideal of my land...

When thy colors float on high,
Eternal dream of Martí,
Such pride do I feel in me,
I would have heaven reply
Whether thou prolong the sky
Or the sky surges from thee!


A la bandera cubana

Gallarda, hermosa, triunfal,
tras de múltiples afrentas,
de la patria representas
el romántico ideal...

Cuando agitas tu cendal
-sueño eterno de Martí-
tal emoción siento en mi,
que indago al celeste velo
si en ti se prolonga el cielo
o el cielo surge de ti...!


By Agustín Acosta (1886-1979)
Translated by Manuel A. Tellechea


POSTSCRIPT:

The flag is not a bulletin board.

It is not a pattern to be cut.

It is not a canvas to be painted upon.

The flag is us.

Just as no man would tolerate becoming a bulletin board, a pattern to be cut or a canvas to be painted upon, no man should ever allow the flag to be desecrated in such a manner.

If the flag cannot claim at least as much respect as we expect of each other, then it is only a piece of cloth.

Those who treat it as a piece of cloth have renounced allegiance to the nation and to the people that it represents; or, perhaps, they have never felt such allegiance at all.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Error Garrafal del Founding Editor de haber permitido que la bandera Cubana sea emancillada por George Moneo una persona que ha demostrado su ignorancia y odio hacia el pueblo Cubano. Levantemos nuestras voces para repudiar este acto de cobardia de George Moneo y los directores del blog Babalu. Una vez mas queda demostrado quienes son los verdaderos enemigos de Cuba.
Favor guardar la bandera en caso que decidan hoy mismo quitar el post ofensivo a la patria. En estos instantes le estoy escribiendo a Maria Elvira Salazar, Oscar Haza, Humberto Fontova, Antonio de la Cova, Miami Herald un e mail explicativo con lo sucedido en el dia de hoy
Agustin H Balmaseda

Vana said...

I saw it, yes they desecrated our flag, putting waves in the stripes, could they sink any lower?

Manuel:

Is so obvious that most of these Bablunians were born here, or arrived as infants, they have no idea what our flag represents, they did not attend school in Cuba therefore that love that was instilled in us they have no idea about, trully they are Americans that's why they dare do something so odious,

I feel offended by that "cartoon" I know Val will not have the good sense to delet it.

Anonymous said...

Vana, This can really get as big as the Mahoma Cartoons which caused an uproar in the middle east. We must unite para denunciar este atropello de George Moneo a proven racist and KKK lover

serafin el carnicero said...

I saw it, yes they desecrated our flag, putting waves in the stripes, could they sink any lower?


I don't get it?
what is it?

Anonymous said...

Babalu Blog Talk Radio

Hoy 9 pm

Anonymous said...

They have changed the blue stripes to waves and cut the star in half.

The bottom half of the star remains on the red triangle and looks like two legs in the act of running.

The upper half of the star has been stuck on one of the blue wavy stripes and looks like the crown on the Statue of Liberty.

Pedro Alvarez, Miami said...

Two open legs: jinetera in the red communist Cuba.
The other half of the star in the waves, a balsero drowning.
They are just being consistent with their posts about Cuba and Cubans.
Do they really think they have a place in a free Cuba? No thanks. Stay in Miami selling mangoes and roasting pigs. The worst part is that this affront to the national symbols plays into what the Castro propaganda tells the people of Cuba, that they have no respect for Cuba, Cubans, the history of Cuba, and much less for the future of Cuba. If sad is to see this, sadder is to see that the offense goes well without denounce by readers and co-authors at that blog.

Peter no Pan de Chocolate said...

Shameful

George Moneo is a clown

Doing mob impersonators in the Radio show, for them the Cuban issue is fun . It is like a hobby to them.

They eat meat, lobsters, shrimps everyday

Anonymous said...

Boycott Babalu now

George Moneo said...

Al, I am leaving this comment solely as a clarification so that all the screeching voices can shut up: the image was given to me by a recent Cuban exile who thought it was the perfect metaphor for the situation in Cuba: 'even the star is taking to the sea to leave Cuba.'

An image that needs an explanation has not done its job, This one, however, should be self-explanatory. Maybe all of the "outrage" directed at this -- an image that captures the reality of Cuba today -- can be redirected to the Obama campaign lady who had che superimposed on the Cuban flag. The nattering negativists didn't raise one little objection to that. And to me, che's picture on the flag is a desecration. My two cents.

Posted by George L. Moneo at July 9, 2008 10:33 PM

Fantomas said...

today -- can be redirected to the Obama campaign lady who had che superimposed on the Cuban flag. The nattering negativists didn't raise one little objection to that. And to me, che's picture on the flag is a desecration. My two cents.

Posted by George L. Moneo at July 9, 2008 10:33

El che guevara no tiene lugar en ninguna bandera Cubana. Creo que debemos indagar que esta haciendo esta mujer ahora en la Campaña de Obama si sigue en ella. Y si de casualidad a Obama se le ocurre darle algun puesto de relevancia estar listos para desenmascararla ante la opinion publica mundial

Para evitar controversias señores es mejor respetar nuestra bandera y admirarla como es ella : La MAS
BELLA..sin modificaciones

pedro alvarez, miami said...

Ah, now the culprit is a RECENT(!) exile.
And what happened that the righteous, old timer, higher than thou exile of old data George Moneo didn't know better?
Do we really have to believe this?
HYPOCRITS.
Their bile and hate against recent arrivals have no name.

pedro alvarez, miami said...

The woman that defaced the Cuban flag with the face of Guevara is not a recent arrival she's been here since she was a child. I read in several blogs a strong condemnation of her actions. Moneo is just deflecting the attention and blaming others to try to justify his acts. Instead, he is right there with the ones who defaced the Cuban flag with communist symbols.

Fantomas said...

Los emigrados del Mariel nunca fueron aceptados por sus peers en Miami en 1980. And they know it

Con mucho recelo siempre fueron vistos

Iam so glad I only lasted 7 days in Miami after I arrived in Krome

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

George blames a "recent Cuban exile" for this sacrilege.

Is that any surprise?

The policy at Babalú is and has always been to blame the newcomers for everything.

Yet, exactly when was this "recent Cuban exile" given posting privileges at Babalú?

Will we find his name among the contributing writers?

Fantomas said...

Manuel cuando salio lo de la mujer de houston , usted escribio algo al respecto, condenando esa accion

lo tiene en el archivo suyo?

en que fecha ocurrio eso para ver si yo escribi algo al respecto tambien

Fantomas said...

Manuel, i had posted this on my blog

Dear Mr. Obama:

Having a Cuban Flag in your office is offensive to the Cuban Americans that might give you their vote
Having a Cuban Flag with a picture of Che Guevara is an insult not just to the Cuban Americans, but to the millions of Doctors around the world that take the Hypocritical Oath in which they will save lives, not kill people like Mr. Guevara did, and as they did to him


The people that currently live in Cuba are oppressed, but not by an Embargo created by John F. Kennedy during his term in office, but by the government that has been in power since 1959. A government that has taken away their liberty and their dignity. A government that has taken away basic necessities such as food and medicines.



Please realize Mr. Obama, that Cuba was a leading nation before 1960. The first black and white television stations in Latin America came about in Cuba. The first color television stations in Latin America came about in Cuba. Cuban doctors were on the forefront of many diseases. My father in law’s eyesight was restored by a Cuban Doctor in the 1950’s. Around 1881 a Cuban Doctor, Carlos Finlay, played an important role in the treatment of Malaria, allowing patients to survive the dreaded disease.



Any embargo against Cuba is a joke. Maybe you should spend some time in Free Zones around the world, like the Colon Free Zone in Panama, and see the Cuban Government buyers acquiring anything that is available for sale and sending it to Cuba. Needless to say, the worst part is that they drive late model German cars, wear Rolex watches on their hands and have the latest fashion attires, are these the oppressed or the oppressors??



That Cuban Flag in your Houston Office is just as offensive as hailing Hitler as a great leader, just as offensive as a hanging noose on the cover of any magazine, or just as offensive as a burning cross anywhere in the world. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the First Amendment BUT what is not offensive to you might be offensive to me and vice versa.



Being of Cuban American descent and thanks to John F. Kennedy for cancelling the Para-military operation that could have freed Cuba in the 1960’s, the democrats will never have my vote. Your Democratic Party started it and you want to end it. It is just not going to happen. If you are in line with people like Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and all of their friends, maybe you should take a look theory and practice, they are sometimes not the same. “Das Kommunnist Manifesto” might be nice to read, but in reality it will never work. Someone has to be in power at all times, and power has a price.


What is your price Mr. Obama??


Gustavo Valdor

Miami, FL, 33178



Y aqui estan mis che links on my blog, por cierto tengo una foto tuya ahi manuel tuya en mis archivos de cuando no te peinabas

http://www.abajofidelcastro.com/search?q=che+guevara

Anonymous said...

Congratulations. You have KO'ed Moneo.

Fantomas said...

Moneo se KO'ed el solito

Vana said...

No surprise whatsoever, they seem to be blaming everything on recent arrivals lately

Golden State Warden said...

Vana is to Manuel what Ziva is to Babalu

And get this

Both are from California

Puras coincidencias

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

We expect the Communists to desecrate our flag. Every time that they lay their hands on our flag it is a desecration. Every time that they use our flag as a backdrop for their acts, it is a desecration. Every time our flag is placed on the coffin of one of those henchmen, it is a desecration. They have lived and will die desecrating our flag. Every day they stab its star a million times and the next day stab it a million more. This is who they are and this is what they do.

One thing, however, that they don't do in Cuba is to superimpose the face of Che Guevara on the Cuban flag. That is strictly the work of leftists in the U.S.

Their actions, however, do not give anyone sanction to follow their odious example. On the contrary, free Cubans should be very careful never to give offense to our flag or national symbols. Such a distinction can never be blurred without damaging the cause of a free Cuba.

That George is too dense to see this does not excuse his conduct, for even were it attributable to his ignorance (as so much else is), having been apprised of his error, he would endeavor to correct it rather than persist in his folly if he were an honest man.

Anonymous said...

A comparison between Vana and Ziva?
That's crazy. The Babblelubbers would kill to have Vana for one day, even without writing a comment, on their side.

Anonymous said...

if he were an honest man.

Por Favor Manuel no le pidas Peras al Olmo

Anonymous said...

Is Vana la Diva de RCAB Nation?

Fulano de Cal said...

Maybe Moneo can find another Adlai Stevenson quote to hide behind. He is by far the weakest and stupidest link on Babalu. Que clase de comemierda.

serafin el carnicero said...

Esto si es el colmo... que falta de respeto a NUESTRA bandera...

Digo NUESTRA bandera porque george no tiene ni un pelo de Cubano...

George, would you do the same to YOUR flag ?

Anonymous said...

The weakest link

ji ji ji

Anonymous said...

Serafin donde nacio George?

serafin el carnicero said...

Let's see if Val has the bolitas to delete this post.
Is he afraid of jorjito meneito ?

Emilio should give him a call..
We know Val did not have the balls to hold his ground against the great Emilio ... He apologized like a little girl...

charlie papa said...

Now Moneo wants to be funny con Obama

Speaks English
Speaks Spanish

Trying to deviate por el huevo que puso

que gallinon

Anonymous said...

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ME EMBOLSE DE LA RISA, NO ME HAGAS ESO OTRA VEZ

serafin el carnicero said...

"Serafin donde nacio George?"


I think he was born near the Andaman Islands ....

piruli said...

Val will not remove the flag

Moneo will destroy Babalu by himself

Val knows it

Ta cagao to act

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Angel Garzón said...

For whatever it's worth, I just posted a request comment at Babalu, it reads:

George, perhaps you did not have any derogatory intention when you posted this desecration of my Cuba's National Flag. No one is perfect, all of us humans err at one time or another. I urge you to do the right thing, take the correct action(s) and prevent further potential damage to your reputation and that of Babalu Blog, I'd suggest that you take down the graphic, apologize with utmost sincerity and prepare yourself for what may come your way. I do not always agree with you, I detest your propensity to the profane, but you are an educated man with many principles with which I agree. I reiterate, I do not believe that you had any negative intentions in mind or heart, nevertheless, please take it down. Thanks.

Posted by: Angel Garzón [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 10, 2008 01:45 AM

boricua en la luna said...

ANOTHER BABALU KOOL AID DRINKER LAUGHING

I laughed out loud. It's perfect.

Posted by Zhangliqun at July 10, 2008 01:10 AM

Angel Expect nothing short of a profanity tirade by el Mono
Jojoy babalusiano

Anonymous said...

Val will not remove the flag

Moneo will destroy Babalu by himself

Val knows it

Ta cagao to act

7/10/2008 12:24 AM

Piruli is correct. Where is Prince Kendall in all this?
Still working on the kitchen?

Jaime Noroña said...

Thus spake George Moneo:

My intent when I posted the image was -- and is -- as clear as gin: the image is a metaphor for the condition Cuba is in today. Period. This is nothing more than a cheap and manipulative attempt to drum up hysteria and controversy where none exists. If you or your friends are too obtuse to get the message, so be it. The image stays and my message now is the same as was when I posted it.

Angel, we live in America. I still have the right to post this, just as much as you have the right to disagree with me posting it. You have a lot of crust to think you can come here and tell me what to write or post, demanding an apology for some manufactured offense. Our blog has a variety of opinions, some more pointed than others, but we consistently, unambiguously and unashamedly disseminate a pro-America, anti-castro, anti-communist message here. If that message, or how we deliver it, bothers you that much, go elsewhere. I certainly won't shed any tears.

Posted by George L. Moneo at July 10, 2008 07:15 AM

"Pro-American, anti-castro, anti-commnuist message".

Aren't we missing Pro-Cuba, Pro-Cubans in that statement?
George is trying to be anticastro and anticommunist while deriding the victims of castro and communism.
Take note of that, Cuba is nowhere to be seen in the agenda. As per the variety of opinions in Babalu, well.... That's something that I have to work harder in finding where they are! The sole answer of George to Angel tells you otherwise.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

The flag is not a bulletin board.

It is not a pattern to be cut.

It is not a canvas to be painted upon.

The flag is us.

Just as no man would tolerate becoming a bulletin board, a pattern to be cut or a canvas to be painted upon, no man should ever allow the flag to be desecrated in such a manner.

If the flag cannot claim at least as much respect as we expect of each other, then it is only a piece of cloth.

Those who treat it as a piece of cloth have renounced allegiance to the nation and to the people that it represents; or, perhaps, they have never felt such allegiance at all.

Anonymous said...

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

anonymous:

I have never taken that oath, nor would I ever take it; but neither would I desecrate the American flag.

Even if Moneo and the rest have renounced their Cuban citizenship it does not give them the right to desecrate the flag of their fathers.

Anonymous said...

Manuel is a resident alien that hates the country that has given him freedom for four decades.

Discuss.

Anonymous said...

Val and George are naturalized U.S. citizens who rim the country that gave them asylum but despise the country where they were born.

Discuss.

Anonymous said...

"rim the country that gave them asylum" = the new rcab definition for patriotism

Anonymous said...

As practiced by Val and George, yes.

Ms Calabaza said...

Angel Garzon,

if every commenter were like you, there would be no blog wars. You wrote:

"George, perhaps you did not have any derogatory intention when you posted this desecration of my Cuba's National Flag. No one is perfect, all of us humans err at one time or another. I urge you to do the right thing, take the correct action(s) and prevent further potential damage to your reputation and that of Babalu Blog, I'd suggest that you take down the graphic, apologize with utmost sincerity and prepare yourself for what may come your way."

You are a gentleman.

black sheep said...

I'd suggest that you take down the graphic, apologize with utmost sincerity and prepare yourself for what may come your way."


It is coming like hell from both sides

Angel Garzón said...

Hurry up before they decide to do what they usually do and erase my response to George as recently posted at Babalu:

GM: My intent when I posted the image was -- and is -- as clear as gin: the image is a metaphor for the condition Cuba is in today. Period.

AG: I was and I am very well aware of the metaphorical nature of the graphic and what it purportedly represents. You must be aware that there are many subjects, not the least of which is national pride and its representation by national symbols, that are considered "off limits" or beyond the realm of the common, certainly you are aware that even a small flag represents a nation and its people, you must know that any violation(s) or desecration(s) of such symbol(s) in any way, shape or form may and have caused nations to declare wars against one another, it is due to these reasons that national flags are only desecrated when provocation for war is the intention of the perpetrators, or when disdain and hatred of the nation and the people that a national flag represents is at the heart of the insulting violators. You get offended every time you see any representation of Che Guevara, yet the desecration of the national symbol of Cuba and its people does not seem to bother you in the least. Certainly there are many other alternatives that could have been employed to convey the message that you purport to have tried to convey It is common practice to place a disclaimer within any given presentation, whichever its nature, to clarify the intention(s) of the author(s) for anyone who may possibly take offense at whatever such presentation is intended to represent, but such escape clause is not customarily applied to national flags.


GM: This is nothing more than a cheap and manipulative attempt to drum up hysteria and controversy where none exists. If you or your friends are too obtuse to get the message, so be it. The image stays and my message now is the same as was when I posted it.

AG: There is no manipulation whatsoever at the heart of this issue, there is however, a serious affront to the national symbol of my native Cuba and to all Cubans, whether in Cuba, or anywhere else in the world. You seem to prefer to use contemptuous innuendo to attack me for having warned you as to the potentially negative consequences of your act of desecration, so be it, shoot the messenger and by all means, do not take the time to understand the message. Tthat appears to be more the norm than the exception with you. Your own words prove you guilty of your crime, you refuse to do what you should do for the good of the cause of democracy in Cuba, you choose to give the tyranny in power in Cuba another propaganda tool to use against all freedom loving Cubans and our friends and allies throughout the world, you choose to insult all Cubans whom you apparently believe are beneath you, especially our brothers and sisters within the island prison who suffer daily at the hands of the tyranny and most if not all of the recent arrivals, you coincidentally allege that it is one of those recently arrived Cubans who is the original author of the graphic, I doubt the veracity of such allegation, but there is a clear pattern of superiority complex to your statements, the members of the tyranny in Cuba suffer from the same affliction. You sir are an affront to Cuba and to all of us Cubans, you sir are a shameful example of what takes place when people allow bad influences from unpatriotic citizens of another nation to permeate their once proud national identity, you sir have been negatively influenced by those who posses no compunction whatsoever about using their own flag for underwear, placing a national symbol in the nether regions of their human anatomy. You sir, should immediately cease and desist from insulting the nation, the symbols, the nationals, the expatriates and anything and everything that represents our beloved Cuba.

GM: Angel, we live in America. I still have the right to post this, just as much as you have the right to disagree with me posting it. You have a lot of crust to think you can come here and tell me what to write or post, demanding an apology for some manufactured offense. Our blog has a variety of opinions, some more pointed than others, but we consistently, unambiguously and unashamedly disseminate a pro-America, anti-castro, anti-communist message here. If that message, or how we deliver it, bothers you that much, go elsewhere. I certainly won't shed any tears.

AG: No George, we live in the United States of America, from the furthest, northernmost reaches of Canada's territory to the furthermost reaches of Chile's and Argentina's territories and all other nations of America in between, we live in America, all of those nations citizens and residents live in America George, not the Illusion that you call America, another bad influence that you have assimilated from misinformed and misguided citizens of the U.S.A. You DO NOT have the right to desecrate the national symbol of Cuba and the Cubans it represents, living and dead. I did not tell you what you have the right to write or post, or what you do not have the right to write or post, I advised you as to the potentially damaging consequences of your act of desecration would be for your personal reputation, as well as, for the reputation of Babalu Blog, certainly you must be aware that there are consequences to our actions and words, freedom of speech allows any idiot to falsely yell "fire" at a theatre but with consequences for the perpetrator. You seem to lack or not want to avail yourself of logic, common sense and linear thought process. Your Blog (your own words, I was under the impression that it was Valentin Prieto's Blog) used to have a variety of opinions, mostly from commentators, most of whom have been banished and banned from commenting in the most outrageous displays of profanity laden derogatory disrespect and affront to all modicums of civility, so much for believing in the democratic and civil process. What you claim to be the core of the message that Babalu purports to disseminate, curiously does not indicate pro-Cuba and/or pro-Cuban, I guess all the claims to supporting and advocating for the cause of a free, democratic and civil Cuban republic, as well as, the claims of support for the Cuban people are not included, or perhaps your impression of what makes a true Cuban is nothing but a reflection of what you see every time you look in the mirror, if that is the case, I will unequivocally state that I want no part or parcel of that image that purportedly would represent what you apparently believe makes a real or ideal Cuban, I prefer to stay as I am, a true Cuban among the multitudes of Cubans, with all of our different characteristics that serve all of us so well to enrich our culture and civil pride. To finalize my statement, I would like to offer you this tip, when you offer others with whom you disagree to go elsewhere, you are too late already, the echo chamber that Babalu has become speaks for itself. Enough said.

Jinetero… ¿y qué? said...

Hi Angel

Yes, I do understand English and read carefully this post and its answer.

But I have to declare I do not agree with you at all. My opinion is as follow: I think you are taking things and love too far. This is art and you should take it like this. We should keep ourselves rational and do not going to extremist positions. Is this a sect or a nation? Please! There are thousands of more offensive things that remain unimportant for us.

In the other hand I do not agree also with the idea that claims a boycott against Babalu (as anonymous of 10:36 p.m. said). I personally do not agree with most of the Babalu opinions, but I would not support a hostile call against anyone, disrespecting the right of the owner to expresses himself in his personal space. What about freedom of Speech? You all have the right to disagree with him and even tell it him, but the owner still keeps the right to post whatever he wants in his private property.

Regarding my post, I do not understand why you wrote in my Blog I am disrespectful with you or with this Blog. My post expresses my embarrassment for this “wave of little wars” that keeps busy all Cuban bloggers since last months. That is really a shame, that we Cuban living so long time in democratic societies are still not prepare to accept and respect other opinions but attacking each others instead unite ourselves for the best future of our nation. That is something more urgent than fight about what an artist did or seing two jinetero legs in the red triangle (please this guy has fantasy)

Unfortunately I do not agree with your point of view, but it does not mean I do not respect you.

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