A great American and steadfast friend of the Cuban people is dead.
There are so few opportunities to use that phrase nowadays and when the occasion presents itself it is almost always to pay tribute to a deceased ally.
So it is this time.
Jesse Helms' commitment to the cause of Cuban freedom was sincere and profound, and his contribution to its realization may prove the greatest made by any American of his generation. He has bequeathed to all Cubans a powerful weapon with which to defeat the appeasers and accommodationists who wish to surrender unconditionally to Castro. Under the Helms-Burton Law the United States cannot recognize any future Cuban government which includes Fidel or Raúl Castro. How prescient of Senator Helms to include Raúl in the original legislation and how tragic if he had not!
Jesse Helms stood with us when few would. Some day the shame of those who forsook us will be the greater because there were men like Jesse Helms who did not.
Gimme a break. We do hundreds of billions of dollars of trade, ANNUALLY, with Communist China, have for decades. China is a nation with nuclear weapons and is all but our sworn enemy. Yet thanks to Helms, he worked to keep the embargo with Cuba in effect and even today we can't legally purchase a good Cuban cigar or take a vacation to Cuba.
ReplyDeleteIMO, the embargo has LENGTHENED Castro's stay in power, as you can plainly see, the embargo has done NOTHING to shorten Castro's grip, it simply played into his hands by giving him a platform to criticize the USA, and it made Florida and National politics CAPTIVE to the large Cuban ex-pat community in Miami. Jesse Helms: Dumbest man in Congress.
Helms was a putz, deserving the Al Sharpton award for media grandstanding. Every time some insipid piece of "art" got done by some federal grant, there was Jesse the Clown getting airtime to pillory the poor schlep who did the "art" in question.
Great patriots are known for great achievements. Helms has NONE. Great patriot? Wake up, you must be dreaming. In the case of Helms, to die on the 4th of July means the Constitution gave us a courtesy flush today.
Mat Alex te dio con la chancleta duro, hey Alex are you rooting for Obama or for Helm's dear friend John Cain
ReplyDeleteAlex:
ReplyDeleteI recommend you read my tribute again and focus on the area where I praised Helms, which was as an anti-Communist.
Many a genius was an apologist for Communism, and with so many liberals (and Castro supporters) in Congress both when Helms served and now, I doubt very much that Helms was the "dumbest man in Congress."
Helms had as much right not to regard a crucifix immersed in urine as "art" as you do to consider it such. What Helms opposed was using taxpayer money to fund such "art." If the government cannot promote what is holy then neither can it promote the sacrilegious.
Born 1921 no wonder he was an anti communist, not so those later born Americans, am glad to hear he was a friend of our cause, we have so few, may God have mercy on his soul, may he rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteAlex I must agree with you on one thing, the embargo has done nothing but aid Castro, there he sits 50 years later still in power, and here we sit still exiled.
ReplyDeleteyes, Manuel I carefully analyze your article. You are partial right in some degree.Once, again manuel Helms was a jerk. He was about as nasty a man as you could find in politics.Helms was particularly vitriolic when speaking of blacks, gays and lesbians, blaming them for "the proliferation of AIDS," and stating that he disliked using the word "gay" to refer to them since, "...there's nothing gay about them."Helms opposed the Martin Luther King Day bill in 1983 on grounds that King had two associates with communist ties, Stanley Levison and Jack O'Dell; as well, he voiced disapproval of King's alleged philandering.Of civil rights protests Helms stated in 1963 that The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men's rights.Helms' referred to the University of North Carolina (UNC) as the "University of Negroes and Communists." (Charleston Gazette, 9/15/95)[7]
ReplyDeleteHelms once deeply offended a black colleague, Democratic Senator Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, by singing part of "Dixie" on a Capitol elevator. what type of behaviour is this, manuel? Helms helped create an ad that read "White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? oh, yea manuel he was very fucking special guy. Please analyze your subject more carefully.
See, I'm young. Though I'm a junkie in terms of politics,Personally, I can forgive everything but the bigoted, anti-gay, anti-black attitude he carried with him. What a dirtbag.
ReplyDeleteAlex:
ReplyDeleteHelms never owned any slaves though his detractors treated him as if he did. His social conservatism and religious convictions were more in sinc with the core beliefs of white and black North Carolinians than the leftist pap and moral relativism espoused by elitists who tended to look down on Helms and his constituency.
ALEX TKO MANUEL in the first round
ReplyDelete1, 2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 , 9
it is all over
Manuel taken out to the hospital
If I were you Manuel , I would not say a word for at least a week on this blog
Don't try to fix it now
Alex:
ReplyDeleteI am also an admirer of the late General Augusto Pinochet. Most Cuban exiles are.
Manuel Pinochet was a dictator. We as Cuban have to reject any kind of dictatorhip lefty or righty . Both denied the basic human rights to its citizens
ReplyDeleteCold war era is over .. Forget about the fact Pinochet was trying to stop the russians . The Berlin wall is gone since 89
George L. Moneo said...
ReplyDeleteI marvel at the "diverse group" that is the left: imbeciles, traitors, America-haters, communists, environmentalist wackos, feminazis, do-nothings, kool-aid drinkers, socialists, obamaniacs, animal-rights creeps, clintonoids, radical vegans, dixiecrats, klansmen, the Weather Underground, the Earth Liberation Front, PETA, baby-killers, criminal-coddlers, defenders of terrorists, 9/11 truthers, and on and on and on. Don't you love diversity?
10:44 PM, June 29, 2008
Excuse,me manuel you call yourself an admirer of the late General Augusto Pinochet.A mass murder,one of the most hated figures in the world, That you admire?400,000 people were tortured according to some estimates, and one million Chileans were forced to flee the country and go into exile...Thanks to your wonderful icon pinochet. Fidel Castro falls into the same category, do you admire him as well.
ReplyDeleteAlex dude no le tires mas a MAt que lo vas a matar
ReplyDeleteTu ganastes el bout ya..Dejalo que se recupere no lo tosiges mas
lol
Manuel = loves dictators
ReplyDeleteDid you also love Anastasio Somoza, Manuel?
Did you love Trujillo?
Did you love Duvalier?
Did you love Batista?
Did you love Franco?
Did you love Alfredo Stroessner?
Did you love Hugo Banzer?
Did you love Carlos Castillo Armas?
Did you love Manuel Noriega?
do you love hugo chavez?
Vana what is a libreta dear?
ReplyDeleteLAS VEGAS - While unveiling his energy plan here recently, Sen. John McCain was performing relatively smoothly.
ReplyDeleteHe managed to limit the mechanical hand chops and weirdly timed smiles that can often punctuate his speeches. He delivered his lines with an ease that suggested a momentary peace with his longtime nemesis, the teleprompter. (He relied on a belt-and-suspenders approach, with text scrolling down screens to his left and right, and on a big TV set in front of him.)
But when McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, came to the intended sound bite of his speech -- the part about reducing America's dependence on foreign oil -- he hit a slick.
"I have set before the American people an energy plan, the Lex-eegton Project," McCain said, drawing a quick breath and correcting himself. "The Lex-ing-ton Proj-ect," he said slowly. "The Lexington Project," he repeated. "Remember that name."
In a town meeting in Cincinnati the next day, McCain would again slip up on the name of the Massachusetts town, where, he noted, "Americans asserted their independence once before." He called it "the Lexiggdon Project," and twice tried to fix his error, before flipping the name ("Project Lexington") in subsequent references.
McCain's battle of Lexington is part of a struggle he is engaged in every day. A politician who has thrived in the give-and-take settings of campaign buses, late-night TV couches and town meetings, he now is trying to meet the more formal speaking demands of a general election campaign.
By his own admission, McCain is not a great orator. He is ill-suited to lecterns (which often dwarf his small stature), and he tends to sound as if he is reading his lines, not speaking them. His shortcomings have been accentuated in a two-man race, particularly because the other man -- Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee -- can often dazzle on stage
Alex:
ReplyDeletePinochet was not a dictator.
The proof is that he was defeated in his last election and relinquished power to his adversaries.
Let's see Castro do that or Mugabe.
anonymous:
ReplyDeleteMy opinion of Batista is well-known: Better a thousand years of Batista than one single day of Fidel because Batista could not have destroyed Cuba in a 1000 years whereas Castro could and did.
All Cubans owe a debt of gratitude to Anastasio Somoza (hijo) for having allowed the Brigade 2506 to train in Nicaragua. He was one of two presidents involved in that operation and the only one who didn't betray us.
There is no doubt that Francisco Franco saved Spain from Stalinism and that his legacy to his countrymen is a democratic and prosperous Spain. For that he deserves to be honored by his countrymen. I do not honor him, however, because he allowed his hatred for the U.S. (dating back to 1898) and fellow feeling for another gallego to so cloud his judgment that he became the abetter of Communism in Cuba.
Alex:
ReplyDeleteCuba has had very few friends over the last 50 years. Gratitude is the least that is owed to the anti-Communist autocrats who stood with us when so-called democrats extolled our bondage and celebrated its perpetrator.
Note:
ReplyDeleteThe quotes from George Moneo cited above were taken from comments he left at 26th Parallel and were directed to Rick (formerly of SotP), not me.
Any future doctoring or falsification of comments shall result in the removal of same to The Madhouse.
Pinochet was not a dictator.
ReplyDeleteAre you serious,Manuel?For some manuel, he was the epitome of an evil dictator.let's recall Mr. Pinochet history. According to my recollection. Augusto Pinochet had used multiple aliases and false identification to maintain over 125 secret bank accounts at the Riggs National Bank and eight other financial institutions in the United States. That's a honest commie hiding money from his people.The Pinochet's legacy is not a bed of roses, manuel... Pinochet was a sonofabitch. If you are viewing him on his economy achievements, well the joke is on you.Regardless, he was a bad man.he was personally responsible for every cruelty committed in Chile while he was dictator. The largest holdings of evidence on human rights abuses in Chile remain sealed in the secret archives of the US government. Documents such as "Chilean Executions," a recently declassified top-secret report prepared for Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in November 1973, summarize the bloody atrocities that took place in the nineteen days following the coup-320 people summarily executed, 1,500 killed, more than 13,500 arrested. But that document also reveals that Washington was expediting economic and military aid to Chile despite intimate knowledge of gross human rights violations under the new military junta. The vast majority of US intelligence records on Chile have never been declassified, precisely because the United States has so much to hide in its sordid and shameful history of helping Pinochet seize-and keep-power.
oveja negra,
ReplyDeletewhy are you using that moniker? I wonder, are you trying to confuse people into thinking you are Charlie Bravo? If you are, I can assure everyone that Charlie is NOT commenting on this blog at this time.
Again, for the record: Charlie Bravo is NOT "oveja negra"; this "oveja negra" appears to truly be a black sheep.
MaT,
great post. Not many Americans have stood up to Communism the way this man did. He was tarred and feathered by the Left who never, ever have a negative thing to say about the Honorable West Virgnia former KKK Senator Robert Byrd. Just wait and hear the over-the-top eulogies by the press when Byrd passes away . . . it will be disgusting.
alex:
ReplyDeletePinochet was "the epitome of an evil dictator" to leftists who revere Fidel Castro.
Alex:
ReplyDeleteBTW, Jesse Helms was not in the Senate when the Cuban trade embargo was instituted by a Democratic congress and president. At the time this measure was considered a rather moderate reaction to Castro's confiscation without compensation of U.S. properties on the island.
If you are going to call Helms anti-black and homophobic, you should at least acknowledge that he was instrumental in securing support for the war on AIDS in Africa. Bono credits him with the passage of legislation that provided free medication to a half-million African children afflicted with HIV and AIDS and curtailed the spread of the disease there.
I highly doubt Jesse Helms would have betrayed us during the Bay of Pigs. That is my litmus test in this case. If we still consider ourselves desterrados, then lets not be timid about recognizing our true allies and heroes. This is a struggle, not a beauty contest. This includes Luis Posada Carriles.
ReplyDeleteSomoza was also our friend. He understood the scourge of communism in latin america.
Manuel , Just put up your shutters and leave them there. That'll about match the light in your mind...
ReplyDeleteI'm back. I see you have not call my name in vain
ReplyDeleteThat's progress
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ReplyDeletemat said: "Better a thousand years of Batista than one single day of Fidel"
ReplyDeleteMAT: In your opinion-- Is this statement true for ALL cubans ?
mat said: "Better a thousand years of Batista than one single day of Fidel"
ReplyDeleteMat you went overboard with this comment
La Mandela Colombiana
ReplyDeleteIngrid paso 6 años muy dificiles secuestrada, fue maltratada , vio la muerte muy de cerca, y esta mujer es capaz de perdonar a sus verdugos
Podremos nosotros los cubanos algun dia perdonar a fidel Castro y sus secuaces. Espero que la respuesta sea un rotundo SI, VERDAD MANUEL, LEAN ESTO BELOW
MOISÉS NAÍM El golpe más duro a las FARC
La Mandela colombiana
MOISÉS NAÍM 06/07/2008
Quienes conocen a Nelson Mandela suelen quedar impactados por su total falta de resentimiento y rencor hacia sus carceleros. Después de 27 años de cárcel, Mandela fue liberado en 1990. Inmediatamente continuó su lucha contra el apartheid. Pero en vez de abogar por la confrontación y la violencia se entregó de lleno a promover la reconciliación, el perdón y el entendimiento entre los surafricanos. La democracia que hoy vive su país le debe mucho a Mandela y a su capacidad para no odiar a quienes lo arrojaron a la cárcel durante un tercio de su vida.
Ingrid Betancourt
A FONDO
Nacimiento: 1961 Lugar: (Bogotá)
La noticia en otros webs
webs en español
en otros idiomas
Betancourt enfatiza que la paz en Colombia es posible y la negociación con las FARC, necesaria
La semana pasada apareció una Mandela en Colombia. En el helicóptero que llevaba a Ingrid Betancourt a la libertad después de más de seis años de sufrimientos también viajaban César y Gafas, dos de los líderes del grupo de las FARC a cargo de su custodia y quienes eran los responsables de muchas de las crueldades que sufrió la ex candidata presidencial. Los dos guerrilleros fueron rápidamente sometidos y esposados. "Cuando los vi allí tirados no sentí rencor. Más bien les tuve lástima", dijo Betancourt unas horas más tarde. También se preocupó por sus demás captores, quienes quedaron en la selva. Los desprevenidos guerrilleros dejaron escapar a lo más preciado que le quedaba a las FARC: una secuestrada de fama mundial a la que usaban como ficha en su cobarde y sangriento juego de póker. En las FARC los errores se pagan con la vida. Esto lo sabe Betancourt y por eso el día de su liberación insistió: "Espero que no haya ajusticiamiento por parte de las FARC a los guerrilleros que nos cuidaban y quedaron en la selva. No fue culpa de ellos, fue una operación perfecta". Los guerrilleros que "los cuidaban" y de cuya suerte Betancourt se preocupa son los mismos que cada noche la encadenaban y de día la maltrataban.
En todas sus intervenciones Betancourt enfatiza que la paz en Colombia es posible y que la negociación con las FARC es necesaria. La disposición de Betancourt a la reconciliación y al perdón es notable, al igual que su habilidad en el manejo de los medios de comunicación. No es de extrañar que su popularidad en las encuestas, que está en el 71%, sea sólo excedida por la del presidente Uribe. Y tampoco sería de extrañar que esta ambiciosa política intente, de nuevo, llegar a la presidencia de Colombia. Y es que si bien la historia del secuestro y la liberación de Ingrid Betancourt tienen aspectos humanos conmovedores también tienen potentes implicaciones políticas.
Su liberación -la manera como fue planeada y ejecutada- fortalece aun más el prestigio del presidente Álvaro Uribe y de su muy competente ministro de Defensa, Juan Manuel Santos, quien tiene justificadas aspiraciones presidenciales. Los mensajes de Ingrid Betancourt al ser liberada también tienen una fuerte carga política. Reconoció los méritos del presidente colombiano, aunque precisó que "esto no quiere decir que comulgue con todo lo que ha hecho el presidente Uribe". Betancourt insistió en que los presidentes Hugo Chávez, de Venezuela, y Rafael Correa, de Ecuador, "son aliados fundamentales" en las negociaciones para liberar a los cientos de víctimas que siguen secuestradas por las FARC. Pero pone una condición: Chávez y Correa deben respetar la democracia colombiana. "Los colombianos eligieron al presidente Uribe, no a las FARC", dijo Betancourt. Ésta es la expresión de una idea muy arraigada en Colombia: la paz la hacen los colombianos, no se la hacen a ellos mediadores extranjeros, más interesados en promover su imagen internacional o exportar sus creencias políticas que en liberar a los secuestrados. Pero Betancourt no sólo piensa en los secuestrados y en las FARC. Durante su cautiverio también elaboró un plan de acción de 190 puntos para Colombia. Toda una propuesta electoral
En el panorama político de Colombia hay muchas cosas difíciles de vislumbrar. Si bien aún no es seguro, lo más probable es que el presidente Uribe no intente ser elegido por un tercer periodo y prefiera culminar su mandato como uno de los más exitosos presidentes de su país y quizás de Latinoamérica. Esto lo posicionaría bien para promover las reformas que le permitan volver a lanzarse como candidato después de que su sucesor termine su periodo. Y de ser así ¿veremos en la lucha por suceder a Uribe un paradójico enfrentamiento electoral entre Juan Manuel Santos, el ministro de Defensa responsable del rescate, e Ingrid Betancourt?
Pero estas especulaciones son casi irrelevantes si se comparan con los logros de los colombianos en los últimos tiempos. Incluidos los de una joven mujer que a pesar de la horrible injusticia de la que fue víctima sabe que una nación no se construye sobre bases de odio y pugnacidad.
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MAT,
ReplyDeleteAlex said: "Are you serious,Manuel?For some manuel, he was the epitome of an evil dictator"
I wonder why doesn't Alex apply that moniker to Castro himself?
Pinochet at least held a plesbicite and when he lost he surrendered power. Ms. Bachelet would not be in power today ruling as a socialist if Pinochet had not done the plesbicite. Fidel Castro has never done that, so I wonder why Alex does not reserve that epithet for him, instead of for Mr.Pinochet?
mat said: "Better a thousand years of Batista than one single day of Fidel"
ReplyDeleteNo creo que ningun cubano haya querido tener 1000 años de batista
No, no. no,no
Agustin Farinas
ReplyDeleteThat's because I'm talking about Augusto Pinochet. but the same applies to Fidel Castro and Raul castro and Hugo Chavez and Bush..Any more question?
Speaking for myself I was a child during the Batista years, I have to say I had a wonderfull childhood, I could have anything I wanted to eat, including things American, so yes I would have to agree with Manuel, I would rather have a thousand years of Batista, than one day with Fidel, who has brought nothing to Cuba but destruction, hunger, separation of family and prison.
ReplyDeleteFree your Mind,Agustin Farinas
ReplyDeleteAlex are you saying that Bush is a dictator?
ReplyDeletechild
ReplyDeleteprecisamente dear vana el hecho de que hayas sido una niña te imposibilito de ver las realidades y las atrocidades y los actos de corrupcion en lo economico y en lo policiaco cometidos por batista
alegrate de no haber conocido la libreta
donde estas MAT ?
ReplyDeleteDid you recorver from the KO ?
Cada ves que te pones a tirarle piropos romanticos a Batista te metes en problemas...
At the end, Batista "paticas pa que te quiero" termino siendo un cobarde ....
Precisamente la cobardia de Batista , sus actos de corrupcion , golpes de estado y brutalidad policiaca fue lo que dio pie con bola para que surgiera un demente como fidel castro
ReplyDeleteAsi que Mat mejor quedate callado que no pegas una , asere
Vana said: "I have to say I had a wonderfull childhood, I could have anything I wanted to eat"
ReplyDeleteYou were very fortunate Vana... It was not the same for all cubans...
Y fueron esos privilegiados al principio los grandes cobardes que en vez de quedarse a luchar y a morir por la patria emprendieron el vuelo para que personas como yo que nacimos despues del 63 hayamos tenido que sufrir la dictadura por ese asqueroso acto de cobardia
ReplyDeletefantomas afloja asere , le tirastes una recta a 1000 millas por el mismo centro
ReplyDeleteEsto no se trata de millas , se trata de decir la verdad que duele
ReplyDeleteThis is a good one -- Fantomas and Alex H. unidos contra MAT.
ReplyDeleteAlex Hernandez, for someone who loudly claims to be an enemy of Communism, you certainly sound as if you have not yet conducted a full effective purge of the Kool Aid that you were made to drink in Cuba, I was also a victim of the daily dose of ideological hatred that was dispensed aplenty in Cuba, at school and at the block level via the CDRs, I had the blessings of having a mother, maternal grand-mother and father whom every day took the time to debrief me as to what I had been indoctrinated at school and additionally explained to me in a way which my young mind could understand, the fallacies of the ideologically based hatred of the Communists for democracy and freedom. I was an A student throughout primary and secondary schools, my Spanish language grades hovered on 99 to 100 during my latter years of primary and my early years of secondary education partly because I had learned to play the Communists' game in reverse, that means that I knew what was expected of me when writing essays and compositions, therefore I obliged the bastards by loading my works with faux anti-Imperialist, anti-American and anti-democracy ideological nonsense, the 99s were due to small orthographical errors which I purposely committed in other to avoid having to stand in front of the whole school during assembly to read the ideological diatribes to the whole school body that would be compulsorily congregated at the secundaria's patio, you see the commies wanted to use me as an example of the potential of their so called "new man" hypothesis which they arrogantly called a "revolutionary thesis" (fact,) their focus was meant to prove that despite the fact that I never joined the pioneros, which they had been trying to convince me to do since second grade, I could still be led to be that revolutionary new man of theirs, their potential success would have flown in the face of my parents arguments and rationale for not agreeing to let me be a pionero, if you have followed this narrative you should understand by this point that the commies wanted to prove my parents and the rest of my family wrong for not siding with the revolution. So baffled were they by the contradictions that on a final exam day in 1971, the profesora that was assigned to supervise the examinations of Spanish Language whom had been coincidentally brought over to my secundaria from my maternal granny's neighborhood, asked me if I was related to my granny once I had handed over to her my completed exam for she had recognized my father's surname and wanted to find out if I was whom she thought I could be, I replied in the affirmative and she looked at me puzzled after having read my main essay, she told me that I was able to go home for I was finished and congratulated me on an "excellent revolutionary composition."
ReplyDeleteA few days later my granny paid us her daily visit and commented to us that she had been told by a friend of the profesora, that she did not believe that I would be leaving Cuba as my parents had requested a number of years earlier, she further postulated that she was based on my exam's essay for believing that I had become a revolutionary and suggested that I should be questioned periodically as to whether or not I would wish to avail myself of the "Patria Potestad" to legally refuse to leave the country when the time came for us to be allowed to do so, this tactic had been somewhat successfully employed a few times during the "Pedro Pan" exodus and every time it had worked it made front page in the commie rags and main talking point in the indoctrination sessions which they call "the news" on radio and TV. Mightily surprised were they every single time that I was approached at school with such offer and wound up rejecting it, I went through this BS about fourteen or fifteen times, including during the "escuela al campo" voluntary compulsory quasi-guajiro and quasi-miliciano BS of theirs, truly nothing more than work camps reminiscents of the Hitler Youth of earlier decades, except that the future members of the Waffen SS were well fed at camp and we were not.
Why did I seem to digress from the point that I was apparently trying to make? The answer is simple. I've been there, I've done that!!! You should learn a bit more about the historical facts if you intend to have a valid point of view and a successful debate (I was a debate team captain in 5th & 6th grades in Cuba,) just because you firmly hold on to the idea that all dictatorships are wrong does not make you right, sometimes strong men are required to enter the fray of national politics in order to save their nations and have done so as mandated by their constitution, so was the case of Pinochet, Allende had been a communist agent of the USSR for years and by the time the Chilean military took action to save their country from the USSR's proxy-led (Cuba) attempt to take over Chile, Kasstro had managed to infiltrate thousands of his agents into every single institution of Chile's government, what was done to the Chilean communists will not make me loose a second of sleep, for I am very well aware of what would have been done to non-communist Chileans by their communist counterparts and by Kasstro's and the USSR's goons would have been a hunded times worse. In order for a Solomon to be able to lead a nation in peace, there is always a need for a David to precede him and to be willing to bloody his hands if necessary.
I hope you do not take this the wrong way for that is not my intention, I can discern that you did not have the amount of counter-ideological debriefings and teachings that I was fortunate to have had, you have not yet fully purged the effects of the indoctrination that you were fed daily in communist Cuba, cleanse yourself of it completely, otherwise it will mislead you every time you least expect it.
To the individual that keeps on perpetrating the nonsense of cutting and pasting in a blog that is not his: Learn to href fellow, no one should have to put up with your delirium in their own home. -- HREF!!!
Bueno realmente yo no estoy en contra de nadie , ni aliado a nadie porque trabajo exclusivemente con los miembros del movimiento f y ellos lo saben
ReplyDelete"full effective purge of the Kool Aid that you were made to drink in Cuba"
ReplyDeleteGrazon get your record straight
Alex H has never pisado our homeland
He is 100% American born in the USA
"Y fueron esos privilegiados al principio los grandes cobardes"
ReplyDeleteand now their kids are sitting in front of a PC saying that cubans have no ball ... ha ha ha ha
patica pa que te quiero... vamos vamos para la yuma .... y dejemos que los campesinos los pobres y los poldioseros que se hagan cargo de Fidel ... despues regresaremos a nuestras mansiones en el Vedado y en Guanabo.....
alex hernandez= imbecil, tonto, mentecato, comunista infiltrado
ReplyDeleteEse comentario anterior lo escribio el idiota angel garzon
ReplyDeleteangel garzon= idiota a la maxima potencia
ReplyDeleteangel garzon es no other than manuel tallechea
ReplyDeleteI can prove it
Angel Garzón said
ReplyDeleteI wasn't born in cuba..And I hate Koolaid is to sweet.(wink)
El unico que sirve el koold aid aqui es Manuel
ReplyDeleteY todos toman menos fantomas y alex
I use my name whenever I comment, unlike the Thorazine deprived mentally ill that pretend to speak for a million people, but whom in reality are nothing more than a legion of demons that have possesed such individual. If I had wanted or if I were to want to insult Alex, something that is not my intention, I would do so using my name, I do not hide behind a thousand different monikers just like I do not pretend to be someone else. IDIOT!!!
ReplyDeleteWe all know who you are, all of your demonic personalities contained within the one human manifestation.
Hey Alex is companioni blog talk radio on tonite?
ReplyDeleteAlex, I stand corrected as far as the Cuba based indoctrination, but your beliefs do not come out of a vacuum, you sound just like a communist and someone must have influenced your way of thinking, for your own good young man, conduct a retrospective self-analysis, if you are honest with yourself (To thyself be true) you'd see what I am telling you. I wish you well. Thanks young bro.
ReplyDeleteyes, companioni starts in 5 minutes, he will have the webchat open, lets all move over there now
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Alex you are now a Commnunist ? according to Garzon
ReplyDeletewho the hell is this lunatic that came out of the blue a few weeks ago
Anon 4:19:
ReplyDeleteSorry bro yo conoci la libreta, y tambien las colas, vi como todo se deterioro, como todo se acabo, mi hermana nacio en el 60 se le perdio la tetera, ya en 1960 no habia una tetera en toda La Habana, por eso mi madre tomo la decision de sacarnos del pais (Pedro Pan) yo tenia 11 años, a mi me sacaron, yo no me fui, asi que por favor no ataquen.
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Vana no seas mentirosa en cuba hubo teteras hasta el 1962. Quizas en la habana no se conseguian tan facilmente pero en las otras provincias si habian
ReplyDeletehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/CubaCompanioni/2008/07/06/Free-Cuban-Perspectives
ReplyDeletecmpanioni is on now until 7pm
Vana are you 58 years old?
ReplyDeleteAngel Garzón said...
ReplyDeleteyou sound just like a communist and someone must have influenced your way of thinking, for your own good young man, conduct a retrospective self-analysis, if you are honest with yourself (To thyself be true) you'd see what I am telling you. I wish you well.
Hahahaha Ignorance is Bliss . That's the funniest shit, I ever heard...Thank you for making me laugh.
It seems you are destined to be a young man for the rest of your life Alex
ReplyDeleteIgnorance is indeed bliss, you seem to be convinced that you are correct without bothering to take the time to do any research, you stick to your flawed ideas that those of us that know communism from first hand experience have heard ad nauseam from the communists, whether you believe that your points of view are not communist is irrelevant, your points of view are communistic to the core, the fact that you refuse to understand it or admit it does not negate the fact that if you look like a duck and quack like a duck, you are a duck, surely you must have heard that old adage, right? Ignorance of what you are when you express yourself toe to toe along the communistic line, is indeed bliss, your bliss.
ReplyDeleteAlex you have been served by Garzon
ReplyDeleteI say lets all chill here and lets move to companionis radio show , fantomas is on the mic now
I will be 58 in November, I have lived 46 years in exile but have never forgotten the place of my birth, never will.
ReplyDeleteAnother indicator that gives your ideologically influenced mentality away is your predilection for using profanity Alex, only the extremists resort to such low level tactics, extremists of the left and the right, you appear to side with the former.
ReplyDeleteVana, once a real Cuban, always a real Cuban. We real Cubans welcome all the descendants of Cubans to the cause, but they will never understand what it is to be a real Cuban. We do., we have been there. Someone that has never lived in our beloved island cannot fully understand it.
ReplyDeleteAlex has only used profanity against Babalu Inc
ReplyDeleteSomeone that has never lived in our beloved island cannot fully understand it.
ReplyDeleteAngel are you saying Henry Gomez has no clue on Cuba?
Angel Garzón said...
ReplyDeleteIgnorance is indeed bliss, you seem to be convinced that you are correct without bothering to take the time to do any research, you stick to your flawed ideas that those of us that know communism from first hand experience have heard ad nauseam from the communists, whether you believe that your points of view are not communist is irrelevant, your points of view are communistic to the core, the fact that you refuse to understand it or admit it does not negate the fact that if you look like a duck and quack like a duck, you are a duck, surely you must have heard that old adage, right? Ignorance of what you are when you express yourself toe to toe along the communistic line, is indeed bliss, your bliss.
Oh, boy Hail Fidel oops Raul Castro
Hahahaha don't hate...Use your head, think before opening your mouth. well, it makes me think that perhaps you are just natural born communist.lol your turn...
Alex has not used profanity? Give me a break, read his comments.
ReplyDeleteConcerning real Cubans, I have said what I have said, my statement is self explanatory.
Alex , Angel says you are a duck en español es PATO
ReplyDeleteYou understand what I'm saying Alex
Your diversionary tactic will not work with me Alex, self-analyze bro, I do not mislead you. Somehow I tend to believe that you know it to be correct, if you realize it eventually, good for you, a man who recognizes his mistakes bares no shame young man., none whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteEs verdad Alex usted dice muchas malas palabras
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteAlex , Angel says you are a duck en español es PATO
You understand what I'm saying Alex
I never inferred that and you know it Thorazine dependent fellow, don't try to put words in my mouth. Besides, I don't give a crap about people's sexual orientations, that's their business, not mine.
Here's some more truth, Angel you can't handle the truth. Low-blows don't bother me..I feed into that.LOL.
ReplyDeletereal Cubans blah, blah next old man.
Alex, I am not trying to argue with you. Can you get that? I'm trying to educate you as to what your points of view seem to indicate about you, no more, no less. Taking the advise is up to you and my comment about real Cubans was in response to whomever inferred that Vana was not a real Cuban. OK? It had nothing to do with you, however, if you were not born and raised in Cuba, you are not a real Cuban, you are a descendant of Cuban(s,) just as my three children are, it is the truth, it is not an insult. Got it?
ReplyDeletealex:
ReplyDeleteWas Jesse Helms wrong to oppose Robert Mugabe's rise to power in Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia)?
Mugabe has murdered more of his (black) countrymen in the last 30 years than all the white rulers of Rhodesia going back to Cecil Rhodes himself.
But I forget: it's acceptable for blacks to murder other blacks. That's known as "national liberation."
serafín:
ReplyDeleteAlex and Fantomas agree on 99% of all things relating to Cuba. Theirs is a personality crash, not an ideological crash.
Angel:
ReplyDeleteYou are so right, we suffered it in the flesh, though some here born like my children are Cuban through and through, my husband and I instilled it in them, their pride shows for the land they never knew, hopefully they will one day see it free, I don't know about us.
Angel Garzonn says
ReplyDeleteif you were not born and raised in Cuba, you are not a real Cuban
entonces Val Prieto is not Cuban
Henry gomez is not Cuban
Alberto de la Cruz no es cubaine
Alex H no es cubano
Son descendientes de cubanos
I get that from the ghost that lurks in this blog, he always claims I'm not a real Cuban because I left young, I was old enough to see what was going on, I was young yes but not an infant.
ReplyDeletevana, your children like mine, are American citizens of Cuban ancestry, they are not real Cubans, their Cubanistic characteristics do not make them, yours AND mine, real Cubans, it is an impossibility, just as if I were to say that I am a Spaniard because I am of Spanish ancestry, I lived in Spain, yet I will never become a real Spaniard.
ReplyDeleteVan if you left cuba with 11 years old you are a Cuban born and raised
ReplyDeletethis is the first time you said you left at 11
if you had left at 2 or 3 I would have said you are not a real cuban
get it, now?
anonymous, I believe that Val Prieto was born in Cuba and left when he was a child, he is an Americanized Cuban, but nonetheless, a Cuban.
ReplyDeleteAngel it will help to know at what age Val left Cuba of course
ReplyDeleteBut it seems to me that it was 2-5
of course he was born in Cuba Val is Cuban henry is not
ReplyDeleteReal cuban or not we are in the same BOAT....
ReplyDeleteHenry Gomez is an American of Cuban ancestry, for he was born and raised in the USA, those whom like him have been borne and raised in the USA and whose ancestors are Cuban, are Americans of Cuban ancestry, commonly known by the misnomer of Cuban-American, a hyphenated classification that is common in this predominantly "divided along every possible divisive line country known as the USA." In all my years of living in Cuba, I never heard anyone who was an émigré or a descendant of such calling themselves hyphenated names, one of the many positive and unifying things that our Cuba produced.
ReplyDeleteAlex Hernandez said...
ReplyDeleteReal cuban or not we are in the same BOAT....
That statement indicates how well your ancestors taught you to feel Cuban, as I have said before, Cuba born or not, welcome to the cause, it is a privilege that many who were not even of any Cuban relation enjoyed by participating directly and indirectly in Cuba's struggles for independence and freedom.
Damn,Angel Garzón you sound exactly like Manuel T. hmmmmmmm very interesting.
ReplyDeleteThat's because our years of experience and constant learning have led us to similar beliefs.
ReplyDeleteAlex young man please open your eyes, te lo dice uno que puede ser tu papa
ReplyDeleteGarzon is Tellechea
confirmed
anonymous:
ReplyDeleteWhat Angel means is that someone who was not born or raised in Cuba should not presume to know more about life there than one who was. He is still entitled, of course, to his opinion, but that opinion is not informed by direct experience but, at best, gleanings from the experiences of others. The problem for them lies in the fact that they can't ever know if those vicarious experiences which they choose to credit are real or not. The danger, of course, is that they will recourse to those who may mislead them and shut them off forever from the truth.
I have great indulgence for those like Alex who find themselves in this position. They have missed something and they don't quite know what it is and are reluctant to believe those who do.
Sorry anonymous, Manuel is a little older than I am and unlike him, I never became a poet. My daughter is a poet, I just do not have it in me to be one.
ReplyDeleteI like debating with mature individuals, who can carried a conversation without getting hostile.I'm not implying anything negative towards you angel. Indirect or Direct insults are not necessary to get your point across.
ReplyDeleteOye Manuel, negue consórte, brake it down in common every day English, I fear that your statement may confuse a few and I am certain that is not your intention...LOL
ReplyDeleteangel:
ReplyDeleteI am not a poet, either. I am merely a translator of poetry. I take somebody else's poetic inspiration and dress it in a new language.
I can comprehend very well, without the sarcasm.
ReplyDeleteangel se dice nague con los dos puntitos en la u not negue
ReplyDeleteAlex Hernandez said...
ReplyDeleteI like debating with mature individuals, who can carried a conversation without getting hostile.I'm not implying anything negative towards you angel. Indirect or Direct insults are not necessary to get your point across.
That's the Alex with whom I have no problem even if we only reach an agreement to disagree...But I'm still right...LOL...history backs me...NO it will not have anything to do with being absolved, as you know who claims to have said.
I know, but my Spanish language keyboard does not have them, just like yours.
ReplyDeleteAngel:
ReplyDeletePut as simply as possible (not, I'm sure, for your benefit):
Alex and others like him have to fashion their Cuba out of other people's memories. This is not easy and always dangerous.
But what else can they do?
Puntitos? What are you, Puerto Rican? We say punticos, not puntitos.
ReplyDeletenegue is incorrect is nague
ReplyDeletecon la a angelito no con la e
if you want to write popular cuban culture , write it well , please
Now you are speakin' da Engleesh, Manuel.
ReplyDeleteque punticos ni ocho cuarto, yo no soy de la habana , del sexto piso del focsa
ReplyDeleteaprende a hablar primero habanero
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ReplyDeleteAngel Garzón
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you understand my point. Let's continue..lol
Yes, please we all know the famous crap by fidel Castro
I know that imprisonment will be harder for me than it has ever been for anyone, filled with cowardly threats and hideous cruelty. But I do not fear prison, as I do not fear the fury of the miserable tyrant who took the lives of 70 of my comrades. Condemn me. It does not matter. History will absolve me.
In Santiago's neighborhood of "Los Hoyos" the residents say "negue" not nague, I can't speak for any other part of Cuba, but I can speak for Santiago, even if I am not from Los Hoyos.
ReplyDeleteTen cuidado que Fantomas en el Santiaguero # 1 en este blog
ReplyDeleteVerdad Manuel
Parece que Angel le quiere tumbar el puesto a Fanto
Manuel A.Tellechea said...
ReplyDeleteAngel:
Put as simply as possible (not, I'm sure, for your benefit):
Alex and others like him have to fashion their Cuba out of other people's memories. This is not easy and always dangerous.
But what else can they do?
Manuel, Manuel you are my mentor.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteTen cuidado que Fantomas en el Santiaguero # 1 en este blog
Verdad Manuel
Parece que Angel le quiere tumbar el puesto a Fanto
Santiago has a population of more than 600,000, it had about 275,000 when I left, there are plenty of us around and plenty of bandwidth in the Blogosphere for all of us, as far as RCAB is concerned, that's up to Manuel, I am not in competition with anyone here, just sharing and learning some more.
I've gots to go masser, the boss be calling me to chow time, me nevers says som..in some..in to upset da boss, she cokked reaaaallyyyyyy good, I kids you not, masser. I gots to go. Y'all be good, ya heahhh
ReplyDeleteUh huh, alrigh', yeah!!!
ReplyDeleteAlex:
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding?
Quoting Castro's "History Will Absolve Me" speech?
In prison Fidel Castro lived like a sultan, with a suite of rooms, his own private courtyard, a library and fully stocked kitchen. In one of his letters from prison, Castro even admitted that he had never lived so well.
When he was amnestied by Batista after serving 22 months of a 15-year sentence Castro had put on nearly 100 lbs.
I guess he was "tortured" with Serrano hams and tocino del cielo.
I've gots to go masser, the boss be calling me to chow time, me nevers says som..in some..in to upset da boss, she cokked reaaaallyyyyyy good, I kids you not, masser. I gots to go. Y'all be good, ya heahhh
ReplyDeleteAngel are you voting for Obama?
lol
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ReplyDeleteI was answering Angel Garzón comment...
ReplyDeleteOn This comment:
Angel Garzón said...
Alex Hernandez said...
I like debating with mature individuals, who can carried a conversation without getting hostile.I'm not implying anything negative towards you angel. Indirect or Direct insults are not necessary to get your point across.
That's the Alex with whom I have no problem even if we only reach an agreement to disagree...But I'm still right...LOL...history backs me...NO it will not have anything to do with being absolved, as you know who claims to have said.
Bueno, bueno..este tipo de pelea es como era en casa de mis tios. There are good people and bad people, both in democracies and dictatorships. Torture and racism, however, should never be excused. Think everybody, would you like someone in your family tortured to death, not because of a crime but because of circumstances?
ReplyDeleteUn mulatico o un chinito en la familia que lo maltraten por nada..por nada de inteligencia, that is. The world is not black and white, really!
Alex:
ReplyDeleteI must say that I am proud of kids like you that though born here, still pine for something you only have heard about, your love for Cuba is obvious, so I raise my hand in a toast to you. Here's looking at you kid!
I agree with your previous statement Vana, they could easily choose to ignore their ancestral culture and heritage, as well as, all the attacks that come with the territory (i.e. being identified as a Cuban or Cuban-American) and all the pain associated with our experience, it is a credit to them that they choose to join the cause pro-free Cuba.
ReplyDeleteI had no idea that you were, or actually are, a Pedro Pan Cubanita, I extend you my sincerest respect and admiration, the stories that I have been told by two of your PP compatriots are extremely moving, I look forward to the day when Pedro Pans can enjoy some kind of expository symposium in a free and democratic Cuba.
Angel I just farted would you care to smell it
ReplyDeleteVana
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind word...I've been immensely fortunate, with my family, they taught me everything, my grandparents and my parents about cuba.I wasn't fortunate in being born there but I do carry cuba deep in my heart.
No soy de la Habana, No Soy de santa clara pero siempre ser Cubano.
ReplyDeleteAngel:
ReplyDeleteThank you, you are a gentleman.
Having left Cuba the way we did was indeed heart wrenching, being booted out by one's parents while hearing them say, oh don't cry you'll return soon, this cannot last much longer, I'm still waiting to return, no I have not been back, maybe that's why I ache so.
BTW my husband too is a Pedro Pan, what are the odds of that uh?
Alex:
ReplyDeleteNo need to thank me I meant what I said, keep it up kid.
Vana,
ReplyDeleteI had no idea you were Pedro Pan, I've always had a special place in my heart for you folks. God bless, you must have had a very hard time!
MaT,
ReplyDeleteoff topic, but is there any way you could give us your opinion on Ingrid Betancourt. What is your opinion of her before her kidnapping (as a candidate) and what do you think she will be able to do now to uncover Chavez, Castro and all the other thugs who were aiding FARC?
ms. calabaza
ReplyDeleteIf Ingrid Betancourt is ever elected president of Colombia, she will be a much better president because of this experience. Still, I should like to hear what she has to say beyond extolling peace as a universal panacea. It wasn't peace talks that freed her. The FARC must be completely eradicated if there is to be a future for Colombia.
vana:
ReplyDeleteAlex has the high spirits and wild notions proper to his age.
I wonder what is fantomas' excuse?
Vana: My sisters and I are also Pedro Pan. Did you go to the reunion at USC?
ReplyDeleteMs C
ReplyDeleteMy experience was like that of most Pedro Pan children, my sis and I were lucky though we didn't end up in an orphanage but a Catholic boarding school in Nogales Ariz, later we were sent to a foster home in Tucson that's where we suffered the most, thank God all that is over now.
Manuel:
ReplyDeleteYes we must admire Alex for his spirit and Cubanidad, though born here he feels like we do.
As for the ghost who knows what his motives are or his excuse, he's not easy to figure out.
Mamey:
ReplyDeleteI just found out this year at the Cuban Festival there was a California Pedro Pan, I thought it was only in Miami, we are trying to find out when they will meet this year so we can go, do you live in California?
Mamey:
ReplyDeleteBTW a fraternal hug for you and your sisters, my fellow brother Pedro Pan.
Mr. Alex,
ReplyDeleteyou said: Free your Mind,Agustin Farinas
If you put Bush, Chavez and Fidel in the same category, your mind really needs cleansing not being freed.
Bush may be a bumbling president but was elected by the Amercian people and cannot be reelected according to our laws. Chavez wanted to perpetuate himself in power but the Venezuelean people went into the streets sand, voted against the proposal.
About Castro, I will not even bother to talk about because he has never held any elections nor has he any plans if doing so ever.
Vana,
ReplyDeleteSee this link for you: www.cubankids1960.com
The organizer is a very old family friend. There are lots of great links and info.
"Alex has the high spirits and wild notions proper to his age."
ReplyDeleteHow old is he? 5?
He is 26
ReplyDeleteLo primero que Alex necesita es aprender a hablar y a escribir cubano
ReplyDeleteMamey, Vana
ReplyDeletehey i was peter-pan too. from camp matacumbe, to montana, to california
here's a link i found Click Here
Fulano de cal:
ReplyDeleteThanks for the connect, went to the site, read the articles saw the videos, saved it to favorites, I plan to be at the next one, it will be nice to be among so many that suffered the same experience.
Peter pans were lucky enough not to have to endure the wrath of comunism to the fullest
ReplyDeleteThanks to their parents
Peter Pans don't know comunism first hand. Because they were not there
Vana: Gracias mil, e igualmente.
ReplyDeleteI live in California--in the People's Republic of Santa Monica (Yes, I constantly have to remind those around me what a fucked up system/situation the Cuban Revolution brought us--most listen and learn). The cool summer breezes brought on by the California current help me cope with the sea of ignorance around us.
Peter Galleta: My father, my grandfather, one aunt, and several cousins spent time in Castro's jails--one of them was a plantado. This began while I still lived back in Havana. Do you think I left the island to go on an extended vacation in the USA? People suffered and are suffering in both sides of the charco.
ReplyDeleteReread again please, dont take me out of context
ReplyDeleteMamey read carefully what I wrote
Corgiguy:
ReplyDeleteThanks will check it out
Peter pans did not enjoy la escuela al campo or did they
ReplyDeletevana:
ReplyDeleteNothing is more difficult in life than to know when to hold on and when to let go. Love, at different times, requires both. That choice was all the more daunting for Cuban parents because it had to be made in the maelstrom that was Cuba in 1960. Everyone had lost their bearings then, and it really did look as if the world - our world, at least -- was coming to an end.
The parents who sent their children to the U.S. via the Peter Pan Operation did so believing that they were confronted with the same choice as the passengers on the Titanic who put their children in lifeboats not knowing if they would ever see them again.
They did not know, because there was no way for them to know, that many of their children would be abused in this country; for there are many ways to lose one's freedom and become a captive that have nothing to do with politics.
The separation itself at such a young age is a profoundly traumatic experience which leaves its own psychological wounds quite apart from those that may have been inflicted in this country.
It is a testament to you and your husband that you have transcended that experience and preserved your love for our country and bequeathed that love to your own children.
Although I don't know anything about mamey personally, his interest in Cuba and contempt for those who defame her people, tell me that he, too, has come to terms with that devastating experience.
We must always remember that one man and one man alone is responsible for inflicting this wound on the Cuban family.
Galletica:
ReplyDeleteMy sister and I suffered through three years of revolution, yes we felt it first hand for we knew what Cuba was before the revolution, it pained us to see where it was headed, so to say we did not experience it is foolish.
You did not experienced comunism to the fullest, that's what I meant
ReplyDeleteFrom 1959-63 things were not as bad as 1963- to present
Sorry Vana You had to be there to understand this
Vana no es galletica es GALLETA
ReplyDeleteSin el pan y la galleta tengo mucho frio ( en la nevera)
ReplyDeleteManuel:
ReplyDeleteYou claim not to be a poet though you write like one, you always touch my heart with your words of wisdom, make me feel them to the core.
Who is to say what we have transcended, sometimes ghosts come out of our memory that leads us to cry and lament the what if's, as what if I had been old enough to make the choice that was made for me, would I have left? I tell you trully I don't know, for although our brethen in the island have suffered the worst fate imaginable, I do begrudge them one thing, they are there, whereas I sit here in limbo.
Thank you my friend you have a special place in my heart.
Buenas noches a todos
ReplyDeleteFantomas reportandose
Cual es el tema hoy?
Ladies and gents, we have been labeled uneducated Marxists by a commentator that spewed his accusatory diatribe in the "Thomas Jefferson" thread of July 3rd that precedes this one. Go take a look at it and if so inclined, join me in taking a stab at it. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteMy message to all Pedro Pan participants:
I extend you my sincerest wishes of respect and admiration for having been able to go through what you have experienced. I will keep all of you in my daily prayers. God Bless all of you.
Esto esta de p_ _ _ _
ReplyDeleteNi una mosca hoy
Me voy